tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post1401839492629571883..comments2023-10-25T10:12:58.840+02:00Comments on NeanderFollia: Paral·lelismes impossibles?᧞eandertalerinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12545788589913543964noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-77769560854644011322012-06-19T22:05:31.897+02:002012-06-19T22:05:31.897+02:00fully agree!
I am even quite sure, that already th...fully agree!<br />I am even quite sure, that already the first Out-of-Africa people brought this custom along via all the Orang Asli, be it more poetical (the shape of my hand shows my right to be), be it a ritual (initiation) or be it something like a social contract between clans.Hartmut Zänderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825586025479279434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-13177785394098967732012-06-17T13:40:06.422+02:002012-06-17T13:40:06.422+02:00Hi Zaender and Maju!
My idea is that there are to...Hi Zaender and Maju!<br /><br />My idea is that there are too many parallelisms between Patagonian hands and the El Castillo ones to be neanderthal art. <br /><br />Amerinds and paleolithic Europeans have been separated by only 40-50 Ka, that's much less than the 500 Ka for the separation between modern humans and neandertals, so I can imagine that modern humans differ very little in their capabilities, while neanderthals might differ something more. It's also suspicious that no neanderthal hands like these have been found in any cave of their homeland and dated more than 60 Ka.᧞eandertalerinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12545788589913543964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-62514851006355747182012-06-17T13:19:35.486+02:002012-06-17T13:19:35.486+02:00thanks, Maju! I have no link for the papuan caves,...thanks, Maju! I have no link for the papuan caves, just remember a film about it some years ago. It was in a difficult mountain region in the middle, not well explored and the hands had been not only outlined like in El Castillo, but carried specific pattern of points, suggesting, we could face a sort of clan signets.<br />Perhaps we should ask ARTE!Hartmut Zänderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825586025479279434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-25162849820398100452012-06-17T09:32:11.533+02:002012-06-17T09:32:11.533+02:00No, she means that the hands are from Patagonia (A...No, she means that the hands are from Patagonia (Argentina), dated to at least 9000 years ago, and cannot by any means have been made by Neanderthals, that would also be the case of the Papuan hands, which can't be made by Neanderthals who never lived there. Do you have a link for the Papuan cave, Zaender? Never heard of them before.<br /><br />The issue is that some media has been illustrating the El Castillo new rock art dates (which some speculate that could be Neanderthal-made, although they are not really old enough in most cases) with the wrong set of imprinted hands, not the one from El Castillo, Cantabria, but the one of Las Manos, Patagonia.Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-86192597492427055652012-06-17T01:53:49.113+02:002012-06-17T01:53:49.113+02:00my language skills are not good enough - did you m...my language skills are not good enough - did you mean, that those hands could be 40000 years old and made by Neanderthals? They remind me of papuan cave hands, up to 30000 years old.Hartmut Zänderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11825586025479279434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8750361613590482151.post-35523436216145020742012-06-16T11:25:01.000+02:002012-06-16T11:25:01.000+02:00Patagonian neanderhands! Jajaja!Patagonian neanderhands! Jajaja!Majuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12369840391933337204noreply@blogger.com